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	<title>Comments on: Science Tuesday: In praise of open access and nosy parents</title>
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		<title>By: arizaphale</title>
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		<dc:creator>arizaphale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have only just had a chance to read this properly. (ie: suddenly had work to do which needed avoiding)
I agree that this study sounds like it has more holes in its fabric of logic than a cellular blanket.
How about this take...
Kids do not curb drinking because parents &#039;monitor them&#039; (well, not for long anyway) but rather, the kids with nosy (read &#039;interested&#039;) parents are more likely to have good self esteem and are therefore less likely to exhibit destructive patterns of behaviour.
As Jess says, ultimately, kids do what they want and all you can hope is that you have prepared them well enough to cope with the freedoms and responsibilities of adulthood.  There is a big difference between parental monitoring which is controlling and restrictive and firm boundaries which are varied, age appropriately with time. I must read the actual article now...or perhaps I had better get on with the work I am avoiding?

&lt;em&gt;arizaphale&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://arizaphale.blogspot.com/2008/03/heat-continues.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heat Continues&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have only just had a chance to read this properly. (ie: suddenly had work to do which needed avoiding)<br />
I agree that this study sounds like it has more holes in its fabric of logic than a cellular blanket.<br />
How about this take&#8230;<br />
Kids do not curb drinking because parents &#8216;monitor them&#8217; (well, not for long anyway) but rather, the kids with nosy (read &#8216;interested&#8217;) parents are more likely to have good self esteem and are therefore less likely to exhibit destructive patterns of behaviour.<br />
As Jess says, ultimately, kids do what they want and all you can hope is that you have prepared them well enough to cope with the freedoms and responsibilities of adulthood.  There is a big difference between parental monitoring which is controlling and restrictive and firm boundaries which are varied, age appropriately with time. I must read the actual article now&#8230;or perhaps I had better get on with the work I am avoiding?</p>
<p><em>arizaphale&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://arizaphale.blogspot.com/2008/03/heat-continues.html' rel="nofollow">Heat Continues</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the open access idea, but I&#039;ve often wondered if open access has to mean lesser science.  The open access movement is still rather new.  Do you think that the open access journals simply need more time to build up a reputation at the level of Science or Nature?  It&#039;s something I&#039;ve wondered.  Regardless, I&#039;d be perfectly happy to be accepted for publication in PLoS.  

Your point about open-access also brings up another point for discussion.  What do you think about the NIH&#039;s recent open-access policy for research performed using NIH funding?  An interesting idea to some degree, but to me it seems like they place the blame for closed-access on the shoulders of the researchers, and not the journals themselves.  I think many scientists would like to publish in open-access journals, but will likely do what&#039;s best for their careers and publish in the best journal possible.  I wonder if that means that publications might be rejected by the big journals simply because they have an open-access requirement? 

You&#039;ve got a bunch of academic fans of your blog.  I&#039;m sure you could still get access to certain journal articles of interest.  Of course, I can&#039;t condone such activity (please be nice to me, big publishing firm), but I&#039;m sure you could find a way to make it work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the open access idea, but I&#8217;ve often wondered if open access has to mean lesser science.  The open access movement is still rather new.  Do you think that the open access journals simply need more time to build up a reputation at the level of Science or Nature?  It&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve wondered.  Regardless, I&#8217;d be perfectly happy to be accepted for publication in PLoS.  </p>
<p>Your point about open-access also brings up another point for discussion.  What do you think about the NIH&#8217;s recent open-access policy for research performed using NIH funding?  An interesting idea to some degree, but to me it seems like they place the blame for closed-access on the shoulders of the researchers, and not the journals themselves.  I think many scientists would like to publish in open-access journals, but will likely do what&#8217;s best for their careers and publish in the best journal possible.  I wonder if that means that publications might be rejected by the big journals simply because they have an open-access requirement? </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got a bunch of academic fans of your blog.  I&#8217;m sure you could still get access to certain journal articles of interest.  Of course, I can&#8217;t condone such activity (please be nice to me, big publishing firm), but I&#8217;m sure you could find a way to make it work.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for open access.  It is the very nature of science. 

I agree that the financial reasons  are a bit bogus.  Why, because I think they&#039;ll still keep a majority of their subscribers anyway.  Even if they don&#039;t keep them, they&#039;ll make money in the long run by not having to buy as much of the fancy glossy paper and by increasing advertisement fee on their webpages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for open access.  It is the very nature of science. </p>
<p>I agree that the financial reasons  are a bit bogus.  Why, because I think they&#8217;ll still keep a majority of their subscribers anyway.  Even if they don&#8217;t keep them, they&#8217;ll make money in the long run by not having to buy as much of the fancy glossy paper and by increasing advertisement fee on their webpages?</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Science Tuesday: In praise of open access and nosy parents</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Science Tuesday: In praise of open access and nosy parents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jessica K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can hear Arizaphale pulling out her flaming sword!  She is sure to like this one.
Imho, parents do what they feel is right, but ultimately the kids do what they want.

&lt;em&gt;Jessica K&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://justjessie.typepad.com/justjessie/2008/03/in-case-you-wer.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In Case You Were Wondering...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can hear Arizaphale pulling out her flaming sword!  She is sure to like this one.<br />
Imho, parents do what they feel is right, but ultimately the kids do what they want.</p>
<p><em>Jessica K&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://justjessie.typepad.com/justjessie/2008/03/in-case-you-wer.html' rel="nofollow">In Case You Were Wondering&#8230;</a></em></p>
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